Welcome and Introductions
were welcomed to the meeting by the Chair, introductions were
announced and apologies were noted as above. Councillor West requested that all turn off or put
on to silent mobile phones, and a reminder was given out for
everyone to ensure they had signed in.
Apologies were noted as above.
Minutes of the last meeting and matters arising
Friends of Bowlee
– Agenda Item 8 – Page 7
Lees raised concerns about the lack of noted ‘verbatim’
minutes regarding the discussion which took place in relation to
Lauren Mason explained that the notes of these minutes are not
written as verbatim minutes. Following
the last meeting a list was given of the points raised by the
Friends of Bowlee which was included in
Following a discussion David was advised that consultation has been
taking place with wide advertisement of the dates held.
Street Cleaning, Waste, Clean and Green
O’Neill advised that during the recent heavy snow fall, some
waste collections were affected
unfortunately, but crews did collect any ‘missed’
collections at the soonest opportunity once the snow had
cleared. Nick explained to the meeting
that where waste collections teams can’t collect waste during
heavy snowfall, the teams are diverted to ‘winter
maintenance’ duties, such as clearing of snow and
Nick advised there are changes being made to the Street Cleaning
rounds as some areas require additional rounds, whilst other areas
need to be cleaned very little. The
team are currently undertaking a mapping exercise to see where
there is higher need. Following a
discussion about this issue, Councillor Martin advised that she
objected to this proposal as it penalises the areas where people
look after the area in which they live.
Nick advised that the rationale behind this is some areas suffer
from additional waste dropping/fly tipping, etc and as such need more intervention to clean and
Councillor Boriss raised concerns about the waste around the
Baytree Lane development and also the
rail bridge on Baytree Lane which is
full of pigeon droppings, etc. It was
agreed that Lauren will refer issues with the Baytree Lane development to Planning Control and
Enforcement and ask that they take action where
necessary. In relation to the rail
bridge at Baytree Lane, Lauren will
refer this to Councillor Burke (Transport Representative) and query
if the area can be netted similar to the Joshua Lane bridge. (Action: Lauren Mason to refer this issue to Councillor
Fly tipping – Public Realm Inspectors and Nick
Nick advised that there are roughly 100
requests for removal of fly tipping per week with three teams
working full time removing rubbish. One
of the teams will proactively drive around looking for waste and
remove any found; the other two teams work on a reactive basis
dealing with requests. A discussion
took place about the costs of this service and Nick advised that
there are 6 members of staff, 3 vehicles plus the costs of tipping
waste collected. It was agreed that
Nick will bring more detailed costings to the next meeting.
(Action: Nick O’Neill
to bring along costs to the next meeting). Following this discussion, a conversation took
place regarding the previous ‘free bulky waste
collections’ and whether the costs were comparable.
Following a discussion about the prosecution of offenders who dump
waste, Stephen Pyke advised that it is rare to identify offenders
as most waste found by the teams has no evidence who the offender is.
Where there is evidence, then the Public Realm Inspectors will work
to prosecute. It was agreed that a list
of prosecutions over the last 6 months will be provided by Stephen
for the next meeting. Stephen explained
that in many cases people will arrange for someone to remove waste,
not request certificates to prove that it is a genuine company, and
then the waste is dumped, and the person who paid can’t prove
view the full minutes text for item 4.
Unfortunately, no representative was present and no written
update provided in advance of the meeting.
Public Realm Inspectors
Pyke introduced himself and Steven Lett, and advised that in
addition to Steven, Rob Cameron also covers the Middleton
area. The remit of the Public Realm
Inspectors covers environmental enforcement issues and anti-social
behaviour. The team also work alongside
the HIT Team and Clean & Green Team.
A majority of the role of the Public Realm Inspectors covers the
enforcement of matters such as issuing fines for dog fouling,
etc and the team also attend Court on a
regular basis. Stephen explained that
this activity can be a long process which is very time consuming as
well, and prior to Christmas 10 cases went to Court with a further
10 cases awaiting Court dates. Stephen
advised that on a day-to-day basis the Public Realm Inspectors are
in Middleton and dealing with issues daily. Any issues which arise can be sent in to the
Public Realm Inspectors via Lauren at Middleton Township Office as
the issues are logged and then allocated as required.
Councillor Martin advised that she feels the role of the Public
Realm Inspectors is to challenge and enforce issues within our
communities, and queried the role of partnership working with
Rochdale Boroughwide Housing and other
Alongside the Public Realm Inspectors are Town Centre Enforcement
Wardens who also enforce issues such as dog fouling. Both the Town Centre Wardens and the Public Realm
Inspectors wear body cameras and are able to undertake covert or
high visibility visits to areas where there are issues.
Stephen explained that the officers also spend a lot of time
talking to people to try and educate, before issuing fines,
Concerns were raised about ongoing issues in the Town Centre caused
by people feeding pigeons. The Public
Realm Inspectors visit this area and will in the first instance
talk to offenders. If notice is not
taken then eventually a PCN (penalty charge notice) can be issued
to offenders. It was also agreed,
following a discussion, that additional ‘No Dog
Fouling’ stickers would be provided to the Township Office so
these can then be collected in small numbers if needed.
(Action: Stephen Pyke to provide Lauren
Mason with ‘No Dog Fouling’ stickers)
Gary Leigh explained that there are ongoing issues around Myrtle
Road Lodges, in part caused by a broken fence between the lodges
and Boarshaw Cemetery, which gives
unauthorised access into the ‘members’ only area’
of the Lodges. Gary queried if repairs
could be made to the gate and the fence area. It was agreed that Steven Lett will liaise with
Mike Cummings who is aware of the issues. Lauren will also send a Township commissioning form
to Mike Cummings to apply for funding if needed. (Action: Lauren Mason to send Mike
Cummings a commissioning form)
Concerns were raised with Steven that the area around Springvale is
very messy and dirty, with rubbish dumped, etc in addition to bins spilling over. It was agreed that the Public Realm Inspectors
will visit the area and where appropriate take action against any
view the full minutes text for item 10.
Grids and gullies
Mike White advised that he regularly reports issues
with grids and gullies to Councillor Martin, but felt that there is
a lack of investment in the infrastructure, which is now in many
cases 50+ years old. Of the issues
which Mike reports, around 10% re-block, and Mike feels this
indicates that there is a need for future investment.
Flooding on Mount Road
Mike stated that there
are ongoing issues with flooding on Mount Road and this area needs
more frequent cleaning than it currently receives (1 clean per
year). Councillor Martin advised that
all reports she receives are sent to the Director with a request
made for the gully to be cleared.
No. 163 bus
David Lappin raised concerns about the cancellation of
five 163 buses. This issue would be fed
back to Councillor Burke and the Greater Manchester Mayor, Andy
Burnham. It was agreed that any dates,
etc should be passed to Lauren to allow
this issue to be escalated. (Action: David Lappin to provide
Lauren Mason with detailed information and this will be passed to
Rush hour traffic
Concerns were raised by
Howard Bowden regarding the traffic issues during rush-hour in
Middleton and he advised that it can often take 40 minutes to get
through the Town if heading in the direction of
Manchester. A discussion took place
about public transport in Middleton and Councillor West explained
that the bus companies are run as private businesses and as such
‘pressure’ can be applied but there is no mechanism to
‘force’ additional routes, unless it is a ‘funded
Friends of Middleton View
representative present to provide an update.
Friends of Jubilee Park
explained that some works have recently been undertaken by the
Community Payback Team and she asked that her thanks be noted as
the work undertaken is commendable. In
addition to this, there has also been work done by the Green
Volunteers, which again has been excellent and thanks of the
Friends of group is noted.
The Friends of group have managed to secure some ‘bat
boxes’ with help from the Bat Society and these will be
installed as soon as possible.
Discussions are ongoing regarding the removal of some trees, but
replacements will be installed over the coming months.
Sharron explained that there is an ongoing issue regarding dog
fouling in the park. Lauren advised
that if times and dates can be passed to her, with a brief
description of both the dogs and owners, then this information can
be passed to the Public Realm Inspectors and they will arrange to
visit the park to take action. (Action: Groups to pass information to
Lauren Mason to share with the relevant teams)
Friends of Wince Brook
for the Friends of Wince Brook took place on 28 February 2018 at
Bob Magee has met with Mr Holden who has purchased some land, which
his property overlooks. The main
purpose of purchasing this land was to ensure that the view held by
Mr Holden remains ‘uninterrupted’.
David McKail advised that he has met
with Marlowe Hardicare regarding the
River Irwell Trust Works discussed at the last meeting.
Work on the facilities treatment plant
is expected to be completed in 2019. At
the meeting David was assured that once the works are completed the
water will be clear enough for trout to live in.
David advised that the group are looking for funding to undertake
works on the linear stone path from Mainway East, and it was agreed
that Lauren would send the grant application pack to enable the
group to apply for Township funding. (Action: Lauren Mason to send Township
grant application pack to Friends of Group)
A discussion took place about the extra bin which Members
had installed on the pathway from Roundthorn Road, as the resident has requested that
this bin be moved to the wider pathway near to Ramsden’s
Farm. It was agreed that the bin could
be installed on the public right of way land.
David advised that there is also a lot of graffiti, and agreed that
details of this will be passed to Lauren to arrange removal.
(Action: David to pass
Lauren Mason details of graffiti and Lauren will request removal
via Environmental Management)
Green Volunteers have been undertaking various work including
laying hedges out today in Hopwood Woods.
Friends of Alkrington Woods
advised that as discussed at the last meeting there is still an
issue with a downed tree. Lauren stated
that she raised this with Environmental Management Officers and she
was informed that “the Environment Agency will need to
undertake this work because of the River. It will fall under their responsibilities, this
has been reported to them and a job reference number has been
provided; 1592982. As such
unfortunately it will be a matter of waiting for their contractors
to complete the work”.
Jerry reported that two other trees have also come down, one of
which was near to the cottage and has been removed, and the other
in McBride’s Wood which Adam Holt from Groundwork Trust has
arranged to be removed.
Jerry advised that the ‘sloped hill’ outside the Hall
is looking brilliant, even after the recent snow, when the area is
usually left quite messy. This year
most people seem to have taken their rubbish with them.
Friends of Boarshaw Cemetery
representative present to provide an update.
Friends of Hopwood Woods Nature Reserve
O’Mara advised that Mike Cummings has recently undertaken
some tree works as previously discussed.
Following the last meeting, a visit was undertaken to see if any
evidence could be found in some fly tipped rubbish. This action was successful and the evidence will be
used by the Public Realm Inspectors to fine/prosecute where
Keeley advised that there are ongoing issues with motorbikes and
off-road bikes in the Woods, and Mike Cummings had a run in with
the riders as recently as today. Lauren
advised that GMP now have a toolkit, for which a copy will be
passed to Keeley, regarding how to report bike nuisance.
(Action: Lauren Mason to
pass Toolkit from GMP to Keeley O’Mara)
Following a discussion about dogs being let off their leads at
Myrtle Lodges, it was agreed that Lauren will request the Public
Realm Inspectors visit the area to see if any enforcement action
can be taken against offenders.
Comments were made about ‘by-laws’ and whether it would
be appropriate to apply to have a ‘by-law’ regarding
dogs being off leads. David
McKail felt that it is unfair as any
‘by-law’ introduced would also have an impact on
‘good’ owners who keep their dog under control even
when it is off a lead. A discussion
took place about the use of ‘by-laws’ and whether these
could be supported by ‘designated areas’ in which dogs
are allowed to be off their leads as long as they remain under
Friends of Bowlee Community Park
representative present to provide an update.
Friends of Mellalieu Street
Stevens advised that the owner of 60 Long Street has applied for
permission for another HMO (House of Multiple Occupation).
This property is situated on the corner
of New Lane and it has already been converted without Planning
Permission. It was agreed that this
issue would be reported to Planning Enforcement.
Sharron queried where the application for a residents parking
scheme is up to. It was agreed that
Lauren would ask for an update from Highways.
(Action: Lauren Mason to request an
update from Highways be sent to Sharron
It was reported that works to the Old Rectory on Mellalieu Street
A discussion took place, as has previously been raised, regarding
the bin at Brentwood and whether a bin store could be installed.
Councillor West and Lauren advised that
they have previously met with Brentwood Management about this issue
as when the initial conversation took place it was discovered that
planning permission would be needed due to the Conservation Area,
and there would need to be funding and project management in
place. The bins are continuing to be
emptied at 5am which is causing issues for residents of Mellalieu
Street due to the noise.
representative present to provide an update.
Middleton Lads & Girls Football Club
Councillor Martin advised that the Football Club has to clear
the fields of dog poo prior to using the area. This situation is unfair as the club regularly
engage with around 300 children and Councillor Martin feels that
there is not enough being done by the Council to support the club.
Lauren will ask colleagues in
Environmental Management to meet with the management of the club
and see if any further support can be offered.
(Action: Lauren Mason to request Ian
Trickett arrange to meet with the club)
Middleton Civic Association
advised that there is a talk this evening (14 March 2018) at 7.45pm
about the Egyptian Odyssey.
representative present to provide an update.
Middleton Cricket Club
Fielden introduced himself, and advised
that since the death of John Burton he has been Chairman of the
Club. Work is well underway for the
start of the Cricket season and the club is currently making some
additional security improvements to stop dog walkers who
are non-members gaining access to walk
their dogs on the pitch and in the club grounds.
Works have commenced on a new walkway, which has been paid for by
£6,500 funding raised by the daughter of Roger Whitworth,
previous club Chairman. Once completed,
the new walkway will go around the perimeter of the
Middleton In Bloom
planting took place on Sunday behind Boarshaw Boxing Club, in conjunction with the
Scouts, in addition to a litter pick behind the Brunswick
Any other groups/events
Any other business (not already discussed on the agenda)
It was agreed that in future meetings Town Centre
Management will bring along an update to be included above on Item
8, Updates from Member Groups.
Lauren advised there is a film screening tomorrow
evening of the Edgar Wood. The film,
‘A Painted Veil’, by Norther Light will be shown at 7pm
at the Long Street Methodist Church.
Screenings of the film have also taken place in Huddersfield and
David Lappin advised
that he was recently at the ‘No Entry expect buses and taxis
area’ at the continuation of Long Street near to Barclays
Bank and counted 28 vehicles flouting the signage between 8am
– 8.10am. Lauren confirmed that a
request has been made for a temporary camera to be installed and
this is currently being looked into by colleagues in TfGM and
Street Lighting. Unfortunately, this
issue has been going on for some time and both Councillor West and
Councillor Burke are pushing officers to have the camera installed
as soon as possible.
A discussion took place about the recent display at
Middleton Library relating to ‘Peterloo’, and it was agreed that the thanks
of this group would be passed on due to the excellent feedback
A film is currently being made called ‘Sam,
the Middleton Man’ and updates will be provided about this
project at the next meeting.
Following the update provided at the last meeting
regarding Hopwood Hall and Tonge Hall,
Members of the group asked if this could be an annual update.
It was agreed that this issue will be
put on the agenda for future meetings on a yearly basis.
Concerns were raised about the recently installed
paving on Long Street and how slippery the surface is during rainy
and icy weather. Councillor West
advised that she has raised this problem with Highways Officers and
asked them to investigate this issue and come up with a solution.
(Action: Councillor West to
continue pursuing with Highways Officers)
Dates of future meetings
23 January 2019
20 March 2019