Agenda item

PACT - Greater Manchester Police

Minutes:

Insp. MacGregor introduced himself and his Officers and explained that he wanted to attend the meeting to provide an update to residents on current policing resources in order to better manage their expectations.  It is a difficult message that he wanted to impart personally as he understands the value of straight talking.  The service is poorer than that of ten years ago and Officers are not able to provide the same response due to the loss of 1,800 Officers during the last eight years, which is saddening.  When assessing reported crimes they are prioritised using threat, harm and risk criteria, victims of serious crime can be assured that the Police will be there to protect them, less serious crimes will however be dealt with based on priority.  Recent serious crimes were referred to, and Insp MacGregor stressed that he doesn’t want residents to be victims of circumstance and his Officers are determined to do their best with the resources available.  He is keen to move forward positively, move past the anger and consider new ways to work.  PSCOs Tracy and Katie were introduced; they are both new to the area and bring with them a lot of experience.

Crime Figures:

Milnrow & Newhey

 

Oct 2018

Nov 2018

Dec 2018

Residential burglary

12

14

1

Commercial burglary

1

5

0

Theft from motor vehicle 

4

9

2

Theft of motor vehicle

2

2

1

Criminal damage

7

10

5

Drug related

2

0

0

 

Firgrove

 

Oct 2018

Nov 2018

Dec 2018

Residential burglary

6

3

1

Commercial burglary

2

0

1

Theft from motor vehicle 

0

3

1

Theft of motor vehicle

1

3

0

Criminal damage

6

3

1

Drug related

0

0

1

 

Reported ASB incident figures

 

Oct 2018

Nov 2018

Dec 2018

Milnrow & Newhey

6

3

0

Firgrove

0

1

0

 

Police updates

·         The recent increase in burglaries is not unusual for this time of year.  Operations will be running to alleviate the number of incidents.  A third of these incidents are due to insecure properties.

·         The Cray has experienced a recent spate of racially aggravated offences.  Officers are working in partnership with Rochdale Boroughwide Housing to address issues, and enquiries are ongoing.

·         The safe plate scheme event on 13 October 2018 was successful with over 40 vehicles taking part.

·         GMP are hoping to receive their evidential speed gun in January 2019.

·         There are 249 call handlers on the 101 call centre, some of which are still in training.

·         3.50 seconds is the average call answering time.

 

Rochdale Division - calls via 101 and live chat
Nov:    5,487 (183 daily average)

GMP - calls via 101 and live chat
Aug:     103,315
Sept:    94,506
Oct:     102,540
999 demands for the same period saw 51,999 calls

Residents’ Questions and Concerns

·         How many Officers are there in the Pennines?

15 Response Officers; 6 Neighbourhood Officers (not including other departments e.g. CID, Organised Crime, etc)

·         A resident thanked the Police for their honesty and said that the figures don’t appear to add up and bear any resemblance to residents’ experiences.  How do we work together to get more Officers?

There will be some additional student Officers on the Neighbourhood Teams.

·         There appears to be a threat of vigilantes on social media, and a risk that people will take matters into their own hands.

·         Is it likely that there will be any further funding?

The Police or Councillors were unable to answer this question.

·         A discussion took place regarding the recording of crime statistics and the scrutiny of Police reports to the Council that highlighted inconsistencies.  There is an acceptance that low level crime is not dealt with by the Police so they are not recorded which lowers statistics and distorts the actual experiences of residents and issues faced by communities.

It was acknowledged that the first point of contact is the issue, the service is poor but there has been a recruitment drive and the Live Chat facility has also improved.  There is also the need to consider whether other agencies are best placed to deal with some of the issues that are being reported.

·         Residents need to be prepared to give evidence and be willing to be a witness if necessary.

·         A resident made the following requests and comments:

-       trends and abandoned call figures to be shown in the data/statistics

-       investigation and prosecution is one way of dealing with crime, can there be more focus on education

-       frustration that there is not enough action taken; residents watch is not enough

-       how are quality of life issues defined

·         A resident asked whether it is worth investing in CCTV system for their private use.

Despite rumours, GMP can and do use good quality CCTV evidence in convictions and for intelligence purposes.

·         A resident advised a car parked on Larchway, near to the junction of Rochdale Road, was causing an obstruction of the footway and obscuring sight lines for road users and pedestrians.

·         Question submitted in advance - Dirt bikes, mopeds and quads are still speeding around Milnrow and Newhey.

The Police acknowledge this is an issue affecting residents.  Officers have recently apprehended an offender resulting in the off road bike being crushed.  Please continue to report intelligence regarding these offences.

·         Question submitted in advance - Huddersfield Road is getting more dangerous; dangerous overtaking is now happening.

The Community Speed Watch scheme lead by Councillor Davidson could assist with issues of this nature.

·         Question submitted in advance - Are the figures reported actually reported crimes and if so what is the clear up rate?

It was confirmed that the figures are an accurate recording of the crimes reported.  Because of the investigation time and the nature and severity of each crime the clear up rate would not be indicative of performance.

·         What percentage of the 101 calls quoted are abandoned calls?

Information supplied following the meeting - In October 2018 12,513 non-emergency calls were abandoned.  This equates to 25% - a 4% increase on September’s abandonment.