Agenda and minutes

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To receive any apologies for absence.


Apologies for absence were submitted on behalf of Councillors Cocks (Rochdale MBC), Cosgrove (Oldham MBC) and Whitby (Bury MBC).


Declarations of Interest

Members are required to declare any disclosable pecuniary, personal

or personal and prejudicial interests they may have and the nature of

those interests relating to items on this agenda and/or indicate if S106

of the Local Government Finance Act 1992 applies to them.


There were no declarations of interests.


Minutes pdf icon PDF 102 KB

To consider the minutes of the meeting held on 23rd November 2021.


RESOLVED - That the minutes of the Joint Scrutiny Panel for Pennine Care (Mental Health) Trust meeting held on 23rd November 2021, be approved as a correct record.


Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust Updates pdf icon PDF 2 MB

To consider a presentation from Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust relating   to:

-       PCFT and ICS Developments

-       Getting to Good Progress Report

-       Financial Update

-       Impact of Covid-19 on Service Delivery


The Chair welcomed all to the meeting, and invited Judith Crosby, (Executive Director of Service Development and Delivery - Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust) to introduce the presentation.


Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust (PCFT) and Integrated Care System (ICS) Developments


The Executive Director of Service Development and Delivery outlined the role of the PCFT, which included: supporting the development of Greater Manchester ‘spatial levels’ work; the development of locality arrangements and the development of a shared mental health narrative with system partners.


In relation to Integrated Care System (ICS) developments, the Panel was informed that each Greater Manchester locality would have in place:  a Locality Board, Place Lead, Local Provider Collaborative and a Clinical and Professional Advisory Body/Group.  It was explained that the transition to the new statutory ICS arrangements presented a range of challenges, including: the development of financial flows and relationships; navigating consistency of the arrangements; and the resources required to support governance in five localities.


The Chair then invited comments and questions from Panel Members.


During the course of the discussion, the following points were raised:


  • Concern was raised that the ICS would be remote and removed from residents. In addition, it was noted that there had been a delay implementing ICS, and it was asked if the process would be concluded by July 2022.  In response, it was explained that there was ‘a fighting chance’ the ICS would be in place by July 2022.  Members were informed that the ICS would reduce bureaucracy to ensure that each locality was designed to best serve those living within its towns.


  • In response to a query, the Executive Director explained that the categorisation of ‘severe’ mental health in patients was a decision made by managers locally. Devolved management structures were in place and operational day-to-day decisions were taken by service managers.  Particular concerns were raised regarding devolved structures in Pennine Care and linkage between the Trust and locality decision-making; it was agreed to discuss these matters outside of the meeting.


  • With regard to caseloads, it was asked how these were shared across Greater Manchester and if there was sufficient capacity within the system.  The Executive Director agreed to provide details of caseload numbers to the Panel.  It was explained that there was not enough capacity within community mental health care, and suggested that this could be considered in more detail at a future meeting.


  • Concerns were raised about recruitment and sufficient staffing capacity.  It was asked if consideration had been given to ‘growing our own’ staff.  In response, it was explained that the Trust’s Executive Director of Workforce was developing a ‘grow your own’ strategy, which included recruiting from those with ‘lived experience’ to ensure there was diversity within the workforce. 



Getting to Good Progress Report


In September 2018, the Care Quality Commission (CQC) had inspected the PCFT, and the overall CQC inspection outcome was that the Trust ‘required improvement’. 


The Executive Director of Service Development and Delivery outlined the ongoing actions being implemented to achieve a good rating.  ...  view the full minutes text for item 20.


Date of Next Meeting

The next Joint Scrutiny Panel for Pennine Care (Mental Health) Trust meeting is scheduled for 22nd March 2022.


RESOLVED - That the next meeting of the Joint Scrutiny Panel for Pennine Care (Mental Health) Trust be held on Tuesday, 22 March 2022.