Welcome, Introductions and Apologies
The Chair welcomed everyone to the
Minutes of last meeting and matters arising PDF 71 KB
The minutes were agreed as an accurate record, with
the following updates:
Sandy Lane/Bury Road/Roch
Valley Way Junction Crossings
The request for a scheme to
make improvements for pedestrians at the junction of Sandy Lane,
Bury Road and Roch Valley way were
taken to Rochdale Township Committee and was not
funded. Members are conducting a Ward
inspection with Highways Cabinet Member and Highways Officers on
Friday 7th June 2013 and will visit this site and raise
this issue again.
Martlett Avenue lack of street litter bins
The request for an
additional waste bin near the ginnel to Woodcock Close was looked
at by Environmental Management who conducted a site visit and
concluded they cannot justify placing a waste
bin on any of the ginnel’s off Woodcock Close. One leads to the school and would be out of sight
and possibly attract youths, causing nuisance to the residents,
another as you approach the school gates from Woodcock Close side,
where parents have made a walk through along
side the railings leads to Bamford Precinct where there are four litter
Township can request additional bins at
a cost of £400 for a large floor mounted bin.
Weed clearance work
will continue and any reports will be dealt with.
The Travellers on the former
Oakenrod school site moved on to Mellor
Street, Rochdale and then from there to Appleby.
Pegasus Court Parking
It was confirmed there
is a Planning Application to be considered for the Bury Road site
opposite Pegasus Court.
Football Club grounds lease
satisfactory arrangement has been reached with Saint Clement’s Football Club ground lease with
which the club is happy.
Planters near the Precinct
It was confirmed that the funds provided by the
Forum for the provision of planters to be sited around The Green
area is still in place and will be furthered. Also the money provided some considerable time ago
for the provision of saddle planters at the pedestrian crossing was
used with agreement of the Forum to make improvements to The Green
following objections by Highways to the placement of those saddle
Police and Community Safety
This item was brought forward as the Officers in
attendance had arrested a prolific burglar which required dealing with and there were other
Operational matters ongoing.
Burglary continues to be a priority, there has been on average six
burglaries per week in the Ward, mostly at the Marland end, although last week there was only
one. The offender for one particularly
nasty burglary where the home owner arrived home and was driven at
is still to be dealt with.
Speeding problems on Bury Road and War Office Road was raised, this
is a long standing issue and previous traffic surveys had taken
place using a metro counter which monitors all traffic flow twenty
four hours a day and produces results broken down in to hourly
usage. Results of these showed a low
percentage of speeding.
Action: Request GMP install metro counters and conduct
high visibility data collection visits (Stuart Hay)
Details of two suspicious males on Hawthorn Road were
year’s Whit Walks were policed and went well, there remains a
doubt over future Police commitments to such events and Chair of
the Forum had written to the Rochdale Divisional Commander, which
was read out:
Dear Chief Superintendent Anderson
I am writing to thank Inspector Khan and the attending PCSOs Colin
Taylor, Andrew Sanderson and Lorraine Entwistle who did an excellent job last Sunday
morning, in Bamford, which enabled our
walk to take place in the traditional, safe environment.
The event proceeded without any
However I was concerned that I wrote to you in mid March and did not receive any acknowledgement
or response. I then read in the
Observer about the problems which the Vicar in Milnrow was encountering. Another of my roles here in Bamford, in addition to my being the Secretary at
Bamford Chapel is that of Chairman of
the Bamford & Oakenrod Forum. So
because time was passing and I was in process of arranging the
Agenda for the next Forum meeting which is to be held at
Bamford Chapel on 3rd June I
began to flag up my dilemma, copying in the local Councillors etc.
Our Township manager, Stuart Hay,
contacted our Area Inspector, hence my thanks to Insp. Umer Khan. Within a few
days he came back to me and assured me that he would do all he
could to ensure the event would go ahead.
We were committed to Rochdale Intermediate Brass Band to the tune
of £250 and I have liaised with 2 other Churches in the area,
St. Michael’s and St Vincent’s. Youth Organisations etc.
I was also indebted to Stuart Hay for his help. I have tabled these problems on the forthcoming
forum meeting agenda. I hope you can
appreciate that we cannot continue to be what might be described as
being discriminated against when we pay Council Tax which
include precepts for Police and Fire
services whilst there are numerous supported community activities
which go on throughout the Borough, throughout the year.
I have made similar arrangements for this event now for over 30
years and Bamford Chapel has witnessed
as a Christian Community, at the heart of this community now for
over 200 years. I trust that this
matter can be resolved in order that there is no repetition next
year and on into the future.
A reply is awaited but it is very clear having met with Head of
Community Safety and Highways that in future any group or
individual organising any event on the Highway must apply to
Highways for a road closure. RMBC
Highways have agreed to charge a much reduced fee to cover costs of
£119 to any not for profit group and not the £804 full
charge. The road closure would be under
the Town Police Clauses Act 1847 and be of the rolling road closure
type which is the most suitable for such parades as opposed to a
full closure under Road Traffic Management ... view the
full minutes text for item 4.
The Traffic Regulation Orders for the revised scheme with no
physical restrictions have been sealed and the works ordered from
the contractors, signs should be appearing shortly.
The Traffic Regulation
Orders have been sealed and Highways have agreed timescales with
the contractors. The signs should be
manufactured by 5th July 2013 and there will be an eight
week installation period. Highways are
to meet the contractors on site within the next two weeks to mark
out sign positions. Councillor Pat
Sullivan would like to be part of that meeting and Highways will be
The signs will be flashing ones and will operate at morning drop
off time and afternoon pick up times.
There will be the facility to operate outside these times if there
is a parents evening or other event at the school and highways will
work with the school when the signs are installed to get the times
that suit them. There have been delays
due to the Department of Transport approving the scheme under new
Comments were made about inconsiderate and dangerous
parking. The school have worked hard
with parents to stop this problem. RMBC
Enforcement Officers do attend the area and had been seen
recently. It was requested to ask them
to attend frequently and also that Heywood Township considers a
Traffic Regulation Order to prevent parking along Queen’s
Park Road from the School right down to the bridge. Queen’s Park car park has been extended and
it was asked whether the land at the side of the School could be
turned in to a car park also.
Action: Invite Councillor Sullivan to site meeting,
request attendance of RMBC Enforcement Officers, request Heywood
Township to consider a Traffic Regulation Order and investigate use
of land as a car park. (Stuart Hay)
Utilities have been conducting, with permission, preliminary tests
on The Green as to the suitability of installing an underground
water storage tank to ease flooding problems in the area.
The tank would hold water and have
controlled release to prevent overload of the system. It is very early days and nothing will be done
without consultation. Any project would
be costly, a long time in coming and if any work was ever
undertaken, full reparation would be made with the possibility of
making improvements to The Green on the back of any project.
Stuart Hay has been put on the
stakeholders’ list and will be informed by United Utilities
of any future development and will inform the Forum. No asbestos is present.
The Bamford village sign is in place on the agreed site
at the corner of Martlett Avenue and
Norden Road, some thought it not
frequency and reliability of bus services from the area to Bury was
criticised with examples given of services not turning up and
drivers refusing to let passengers on who did not have the correct
change, college pupils were allegedly late for recent A Level exams
as a result. These comments were
directed at Councillor Ian Duckworth as Transport
Representative. He has previously dealt
with one of the providers, Rossendale Transport, and as they are
outside of Greater Manchester there is no power to force them to do
anything. A representative of the
independent and passenger run Transport for Greater Manchester
Campaign stated that the area has more buses now than ever before
and that services are better than they have been. The complainant will contact Councillor Duckworth
Meadow Croft Mill
Meadow Croft Mill is being
developed and is to have a 25 meter turning circle. Money has been spent improving the walking area
which is looking good and it was asked whether the Right of Way
would be preserved. It is part of The
Green Corridor and it will be and it will be monitored.
It was confirmed that Moorgate Avenue is
on next year’s Highways programme to be resurfaced and
Bamford Way is to be done. Bamford Way carries a
large volume of traffic. Both locations
together with Bell Meadow Crescent, which has two previously marked
out but never actioned pot holes, will
be included on the Ward Highways inspection being conducted on
Friday 7th June 2013 and highlighted by Councillor
Duckworth for any repairs. Councillor
Sullivan outlined the £400,000 structural patching fund which
is not just the filling of individual pot holes but rather the more
substantial and long lasting patching of larger surrounding areas,
following Members challenging the quality of repairs.
It was confirmed that Highways Inspectors decide which repairs are
made and not the contractors who act on direction of Highways
Martlett Avenue Kerb
The kerbs on Martlett Avenue have all been dropped apart form
the last one at The Precinct so users can get all the way to the
Precinct but not access the shops. Can the scheme be completed by
dropping this one kerb.
Action: Request kerb is dropped. (Stuart Hay)
There is a blocked gulley outside number
385 Bury and Rochdale Old Road which has a history of
blocking. There is also a blocked
gulley outside number 31 Bamford
Action: Request gullies are jetted and cleaned. (Stuart
Dog Waste Bins
removal of a dog waste bin between Wood Top Avenue and Camberley
Drive, it was clarified that these bins are no longer used and all
items go in to the general waste bins.
Places of Worship
The unequivocal response to
a request for information on the number of dwelling houses
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full minutes text for item 7.
Any Other Business
Date and time of the next meeting
6.30pm Monday 2nd September 2013 at