Agenda and minutes

Venue: Bamford Chapel, Norden Road, Rochdale OL11 5PQ. View directions

Contact: Stuart Hay - Tel 01706 922230 

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Welcome, introductions and apologies


The Chair welcomed all to the meeting.


Code of Conduct pdf icon PDF 23 KB


A copy of the code of conduct was circulated with the papers and all were asked to abide by the code for the duration of the meeting.


Minutes of last meeting and matters arising pdf icon PDF 67 KB


The minutes of the last meeting held on Monday 8 June 2015 were agreed as an accurate record and the following updates were given:

White lines at junction of Sandy Lane, Bury Road & Roch Valley Way
Councillor Duckworth requested in writing that Highways renew the white lines at the junction of Sandy Lane, Bury Road and Roch Valley Way pointing out just how extremely busy and hazardous the junction is.

Pegasus Court Pedestrian Island
The pedestrian island near Pegasus Court was installed just after the last forum meeting.

Japanese Knotweed
The Japanese Knotweed on all the Council owned land in the River Roch Valley, has been treated. The land to the rear of Oakenrod Hill is all in private ownership. The actions last year of North West Electricity in totally clearing a large strip of land in the Roch Valley along the path of pylons, which has since been colonised by Himalayan Balsam and Japanese Knotweed, was questioned in relation to the designated Site of Biological Interest as mentioned in the last minutes.  It was asked how they were allowed to do it in such a brutal manner and whether Rochdale Council should have overseen the work. North West Electricity believe they acted in a reasonable manner.
Sites of Biological Interest are a non-statutory local designation and whilst they can be taken into consideration when considering planning applications which may affect them, they are not protected by law and if they are damaged by the landowner the Council is unable to take action in the way that it can in the case of, for example, trees protected by Tree Preservation Orders. The Greater Manchester Ecological Unit does try to liaise with landowners to give advice on the best management of these sites and the information will be passed to them.

Drains on Norden Road
The problem drains on Norden Road highlighted at the last forum have been cleaned and jetted and appear to be working correctly apart from the two drains near the junction with Highlands Road which require further work.  These drains have been placed on a list to carry out further investigations in the future, however, they carry a low priority as there is no risk of flooding to properties. The rest of the drains on Norden Road from War Office Road to Bury and Rochdale Old Road are to be cleaned and jetted within the next seven days.

Pedestrian crossing on Norden Road
The timings of the pedestrian crossing on Norden Road are still no better. The lights only ever change after waiting till there is no traffic. A request was made to write to the central control office to have this reviewed.
Action: Write directly to those in control of crossing settings (Stuart Hay)

Street lights on Highlands Road
The defective street light on Highlands Road near the junction with Caithness Avenue had been reported to EON for repair and passed to their maintenance team.

Public footpath off Bamford Way towards Teal Court
The signed public  ...  view the full minutes text for item 3.


Police and Communities Together


PC Wynne gave the crime statistics for the area from last July to date and made a handout available to all.

She was pleased to report that burglaries had reduced, however, there had been two hook and cane type offences. There had been more thefts from vehicles but 9 out of 13 were from unlocked vehicles presenting an easy opportunity for the offender.

A resident had captured a suspicious male on CCTV walking a circuit in the early hours looking for an opportunity. This male walks with a limp and ironically wears bright luminous gloves. Police have him as a suspect and the resident will share this CCTV with the Police. The need to report all suspicious activity was stressed to allow intelligence to be built.

Residents of Hawthorn Road want to set up a Home Watch Scheme and the Police will send a representative.

There were numerous complaints of speeding vehicles along Norden Road, Bagslate Moor Road, War Office Road and Martlet Avenue. Times varied with some saying it was occurring all day, others that it was worse in the evenings when the boy racers were out. PC Wynne will put the locations on the Patrol Plan, conduct stop checks, inform the Traffic Division and consider the use of an ANPR vehicle and consider publicising as a deterrent. It was explained that the installation of fixed enforcement cameras is strictly controlled by the number of Killed or Serious Injury road traffic collisions (KSI’s) and that despite speed related collisions this area does not fit the criteria.


Rochdale Circle


Nothing to report.


Open Forum


Travellers on Bamford Green
Rochdale Council’s Enforcement Team dealt with travellers who had set up site on Bamford Green. The site was vacated and Environmental Management cleared the area of all waste and litter and arranged for the bund around the site to be built back up as soon as the travellers left.

Lindsay Dunn from the Team outlined their actions, namely they received the report of the travellers having set up camp on Thursday 23 July 2015. They completed the statutory required health and welfare checks that day and found there to be no factors which would need to let the travellers remain. Notice was served that same day requiring them to leave within twenty four hours and a summons was served on 28 July 2015 and a Court Hearing took place on 29 July 2015. The site was vacated on 30 July 2015 and the site cleaned up.

The following comments and questions in relation to travellers setting up site on Bamford Green were submitted in advance and copies made available to all:

As you will be no doubt aware, the community has recently had unwelcome visitors on the piece of land opposite the Bamford precinct. Although apparently not formally designated as such, this piece of land in the eyes of most Bamford residents is regarded as ‘The Village Green’.

This incident, with which the Bamford community is unfamiliar, (there is no record of this green being used for this purpose before) has incensed opinions, and the inability to deal with the matter straight away has infuriated residents.  It appears that the traveller community takes advantage of the numerous bodies that should be interested in on arrival, but which none of whom individually appear to have power to act. The result appears to be that an apathetic zombie-like approach takes over with everyone pleading it is not their fault, as they have no power to act.

As a layman, never before faced with this problem, it appears that a number of the zombie agencies which should be showing an interest and coordinating their efforts, are in fact using their individual lack of power to absolve themselves from responsibility.

The residents of Bamford therefore demand to have explanations to the following questions: When the Local Authority has been to the expense of creating a raised earth mound around the perimeter of the green, to prevent vehicular access, would the gaining of such access be regarded as a flouting of bye-laws and be punishable by a fine? If not, why not, and if so, have fines been issued?

Having gone to the expense referred to above, why have the Local Authority neglected to maintain the earth mounds to the point where vehicular access is now clearly possible? Who is responsible? Have those responsible been brought to account?

Will the Local Authority now consider erecting a discreet low level fencing, similar to the one erected on the Kirkholt estate, which consists of strong steel bars secured by stanchions concreted into the  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.


Date and time of next meeting


Monday 7 December 2015 6:30pm at Bamford Chapel