Venue: Bamford Chapel, Norden Road, Rochdale OL11 5PQ. View directions
Contact: Stuart Hay - Tel 01706 922230
Welcome, introductions and apologies
Chair welcomed all to the meeting.
Code of Conduct PDF 23 KB
of the code of conduct was circulated with the papers and all were
asked to abide by the code for the duration of the
Minutes of last meeting and matters arising PDF 67 KB
minutes of the last meeting held on Monday 8 June 2015 were agreed
as an accurate record and the following updates were
White lines at junction of Sandy Lane, Bury Road & Roch Valley
Councillor Duckworth requested in writing that
Highways renew the white lines at the junction of Sandy Lane, Bury
Road and Roch Valley Way pointing out
just how extremely busy and hazardous the junction is.
Pegasus Court Pedestrian Island
island near Pegasus Court was installed just after the last forum
The Japanese Knotweed on all the
Council owned land in the River Roch
Valley, has been treated. The land to the rear of Oakenrod Hill is all in private ownership.
The actions last year of North West
Electricity in totally clearing a large strip of land in the
Roch Valley along the path of pylons,
which has since been colonised by Himalayan Balsam and Japanese
Knotweed, was questioned in relation to the designated Site of
Biological Interest as mentioned in the last minutes. It was asked how they were allowed to do it in
such a brutal manner and whether Rochdale Council should have
overseen the work. North West Electricity believe they acted in a
reasonable manner. Sites of Biological Interest are a non-statutory local
designation and whilst they can be taken into consideration when
considering planning applications which may affect them, they are
not protected by law and if they are damaged by the landowner the
Council is unable to take action in the way that it can in the case
of, for example, trees protected by Tree Preservation Orders. The
Greater Manchester Ecological Unit does try to liaise with
landowners to give advice on the best management of these sites and
the information will be passed to them.
Drains on Norden Road
drains on Norden Road highlighted at
the last forum have been cleaned and jetted and appear to be
working correctly apart from the two drains near the junction with
Highlands Road which require further work. These drains have been placed on a list to carry
out further investigations in the future, however, they carry a low
priority as there is no risk of flooding to properties. The rest of
the drains on Norden Road from War
Office Road to Bury and Rochdale Old Road are to be cleaned and
jetted within the next seven days.
Pedestrian crossing on Norden Road
The timings of the pedestrian
crossing on Norden Road are still no
better. The lights only ever change after waiting till there is no
traffic. A request was made to write to the central control office
to have this reviewed.
Action: Write directly to those in control of
crossing settings (Stuart Hay)
Street lights on Highlands
The defective street light on Highlands Road near
the junction with Caithness Avenue had been reported to EON for
repair and passed to their maintenance team.
Public footpath off Bamford Way towards Teal
The signed public ...
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Police and Communities Together
Wynne gave the crime statistics for the area from last July to date
and made a handout available to all.
She was pleased to report that burglaries had reduced, however,
there had been two hook and cane type offences. There had been more
thefts from vehicles but 9 out of 13 were from unlocked vehicles
presenting an easy opportunity for the offender.
A resident had captured a suspicious male on CCTV walking a circuit
in the early hours looking for an opportunity. This male walks with
a limp and ironically wears bright luminous gloves. Police have him
as a suspect and the resident will share this CCTV with the Police.
The need to report all suspicious activity was stressed to allow
intelligence to be built.
Residents of Hawthorn
Road want to set up a Home Watch Scheme and the Police will send a
There were numerous
complaints of speeding vehicles along Norden Road, Bagslate
Moor Road, War Office Road and Martlet
Avenue. Times varied with some saying it was occurring all day,
others that it was worse in the evenings when the boy racers were
out. PC Wynne will put the locations on the Patrol Plan, conduct
stop checks, inform the Traffic Division and consider the use of an
ANPR vehicle and consider publicising as a deterrent. It was
explained that the installation of fixed enforcement cameras is
strictly controlled by the number of Killed or Serious Injury road
traffic collisions (KSI’s) and that despite speed related
collisions this area does not fit the criteria.
Travellers on Bamford
Council’s Enforcement Team dealt with travellers who had set
up site on Bamford Green. The site was vacated and Environmental
Management cleared the area of all waste and
litter and arranged for the bund around the site to be built back
up as soon as the travellers left.
Lindsay Dunn from the
Team outlined their actions, namely they received the report of the
travellers having set up camp on Thursday 23 July 2015. They
completed the statutory required health and welfare checks that day
and found there to be no factors which would need to let the
travellers remain. Notice was served that same day requiring them
to leave within twenty four hours and a summons was served on 28
July 2015 and a Court Hearing took place on 29 July 2015. The site
was vacated on 30 July 2015 and the site cleaned up.
The following comments
and questions in relation to travellers setting up site on Bamford
Green were submitted in advance and copies made available to
As you will be no doubt aware, the community has
recently had unwelcome visitors on the piece of land opposite the
Bamford precinct. Although apparently not formally designated as
such, this piece of land in the eyes of most Bamford residents is
regarded as ‘The Village Green’.
This incident, with which the Bamford
community is unfamiliar, (there is no record of this green being
used for this purpose before) has incensed opinions, and the
inability to deal with the matter straight away has infuriated
residents. It appears that the traveller community takes advantage of the numerous
bodies that should be interested in on arrival, but which none of
whom individually appear to have power to act. The result appears
to be that an apathetic zombie-like approach takes over with
everyone pleading it is not their fault, as they have no power to
As a layman, never before faced with this
problem, it appears that a number of the zombie agencies which
should be showing an interest and coordinating their efforts, are
in fact using their individual lack of power to absolve themselves
The residents of Bamford therefore demand to have
explanations to the following questions: When the Local Authority
has been to the expense of creating a raised earth mound around the
perimeter of the green, to prevent vehicular access, would the
gaining of such access be regarded as a flouting of bye-laws and be
punishable by a fine? If not, why not, and if so, have fines been
Having gone to the expense referred to above, why have the
Local Authority neglected to maintain the earth mounds to the point
where vehicular access is now clearly possible? Who is responsible?
Have those responsible been brought to account?
Will the Local Authority now consider erecting a discreet low
level fencing, similar to the one erected on the Kirkholt estate, which consists of strong steel
bars secured by stanchions concreted into the ...
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Date and time of next meeting
7 December 2015 6:30pm at Bamford Chapel