Introductions, Apologies and Code of Conduct PDF 15 KB
The Chair introduced himself and officers present,
and welcomed all to the meeting. He
referred to the code of conduct and he asked all to abide by the
code for the duration of the meeting.
Minutes from the last meeting and matters arising PDF 75 KB
The minutes of the previous meeting held on 17
September 2019 were approved as a correct record.
Councillors are working hard along with the
appropriate officers to bring this scheme to the village as soon as
possible. At present the costings for
the adaption of the lighting column are being sought and the
application to secure the allocation of monies for the scheme will
be heard at the next funding committee in January 2020, which had
be rescheduled due to the parliamentary election. A temporary affixture of a mobile camera will then
be erected in the short-term, before a permanent measure replacing
it will be installed once the contract for monitoring has been
Rochdale in Bloom
The team did really
well in winning so many awards.
Rochdale won gold and for the first time ever gained a win in the
category of ‘Best Small City’. Norden contributed
greatly to the list of achievements for the Borough with Jubilee
Park, Moss Row Allotments, Ashworth Valley and Norden Bowling Club
winning several awards. The Chair
congratulated the team.
Former Turner Brothers Asbestos Site
advised the forum that there are still concerns regarding the River
Spodden’s bank/wall sections that are breaking away,
potentially leaving vast areas of asbestos open to enter the water
course. This situation has been the
case for a number of weeks and there is no apparent progress on the
issue. The matter is one of concern for
Norden ward because a number of asbestos victims live in the ward
and air quality is monitored within the ward.
Bamford Hall – Planning application
Cresswell attended once again to give an update on the third
attempt by a developer to gain planning permission to build a
property, nine times the size of a normal house, on the green belt
land in the grounds of Bamford Hall. He
appealed for support again from the forum and Norden residents to
register an objection with the Council’s Planning Officer
dealing with the application – planning application ref is
19/00643/FUL. The forum attendees
expressed support once again (by a show of hands) for the rejection
of this application.
Greater Manchester Police
GMP advised on the
following crime statistics since the last forum (17 September
7 reported. Occurred primarily at mid to very early morning
via patio/rear doors.
1 reported. Norden Post
Office. 2 arrests made.
Theft from motor vehicle
reported. Various times of the day.
Residents reminded to leave vehicles
empty and locked.
Taking of motor vehicle
5 reported. Occurred at various locations.
Officers advised the forum they had been
actively leafletting local areas of concern and liaising with
neighbourhood groups to circulate any relevant intelligence and
crime prevention advice.
‘Operation Dark Nights’ had resulted in shift patterns
being temporarily changed to allow beat officers to patrol through
the night in plain clothes covering hot spot areas. This action had resulted in a reduction in the
reports of burglaries. Advice was given
to the forum attendees regarding home safety and crime
The successful ‘Pub Watch
Scheme’ is set to meet again on 23 January 2020. Meetings are held quarterly throughout the year in
alternate public houses to share local information.
Operation Dragster took
place on 28 October and 3 November 2019. Three seizures were made (2 bikes and 1 van), four
Section 59 warnings were issued to deal with offences such as no
GMP advised of a recent
speed operation carried out along with officers from the Spotland
& Falinge ward. Another one will be carried out in January
Residents queried matters with GMP including:
What happens to vehicles which are seized?
GMP advised the vehicle is taken to
their compound and a fee is payable for its release (£150 +
£25/day) on the proviso there is a valid insurance
certificate. If not collected in 28
days the vehicle is crushed.
Could there be a policy drawn up to fine those
people whose irresponsible activities cause fires to start on the
moors? Oldham Council were fining
people recently in the spate of fires started upon Saddleworth Moor.
Councillor Gartside advised he would be in support of this
speeding and parking issues
GMP clarified the extent of what measures can be
undertaken including requesting ANPR cars to patrol areas and
monitoring equipment to be placed on the road by the
Council. Parking Wardens can issue
tickets and GMP can get involved in any obstructions. Areas of concern can be reported to either the
Council or GMP via their websites.
Action 1: The Chair advised he will raise the
matters with an associate who collates statistics on non-injury
accidents, etc. and report back to the forum.
speeding and parking issues
Residents requested assistance from Councillors and
GMP concerning speeding on Shawfield
Lane stating that 20 mph speed restriction signage that used to be
situated at the top of the lane doesn’t exist
anymore. GMP advised they would add the
area of concern on to their list of locations for future speed
initiatives. Councillors advised
view the full minutes text for item 3.
Chair advised the forum that the two primary aims at the moment are
the need for additional CCTV to be installed on Edenfield Road and
the deer fencing to be installed on Ashworth Road. The Norden Area Forum
Sub Group will meet early January 2020 to discuss new
projects/schemes to be funded, and any further recommendations are
welcomed for consideration. Contact
your local Ward Councillor or the Township Office to discuss any
proposal in more detail.
Furbarn Lane - Update
Pat Tough from Rochdale
and Bury Bridleways Association attended the forum to advise on the
issue of Furbarn Lane and its status, as it is currently not on the
Rights of Way Register nor is it recognised as a footpath/bridleway
due to the fact it is classed as an unadopted track. Members of the association have been working hard
gathering evidence of its historic usage in support of the
application, gaining statements and maps and
working alongside J. Simpson from the Council to prepare the case
which needs to be made before 2026 to get it on the definitive
map. They also asked the attendees to
advise them of any other tracks which may need to be highlighted to
them so they can advise the Council’s Highways
Department. The Chair of the forum
informed members of his work to secure a barrier with a pedestrian
access gate to be installed on Furbarn Lane to prevent fly-tipping
along the route, which has been approved via the National
Grid. Approximate date for installation
is in six months.
Rooley Moor Neighbourhood Forum
Alan Rawsterne from Rooley
Moor Neighbourhood Forum (RMNF) attended the meeting to give an
update. He advised that although the
group’s efforts had previously been working towards the
Neighbourhood Plan in order to protect the local history,
greenspace and views including putting the decommissioning of the
windfarm on the inspector’s radar; at the point of going to
the external examination the trustees decided not to
proceed. This decision was due to lack
of support from a small but vociferous group of local residents.
In addition, there are indications from
a report by the Local Government Association that Local Plans are
not accorded the weight which they were intended to, in local
planning matters. RMNF has, however,
received several compliments from other forums on how well they
formulated their initiative and can now be a model for other
area’s future plans.
Friends of The Moors Update
The significance of this group
is to bring together people from the local neighbouring areas of
Rochdale, Rossendale, etc who are passionate about protecting the
moors. Anyone who is interested in this
initiative can get further information from the Chair.
Village Winter Events
Norden Christmas lights switch on
was a fantastic event attracting around 1500 people. In attendance was GMP who were glad to be
involved. Villagers and friends enjoyed
an evening of entertainment including Christmas markets, music,
food and drink stalls, choir singing and also a visit from The
Grinch. Monies raised went to local
good causes including the NSPCC.
The Chair gave thanks to Paul Ellison and congratulated him on his
award of Rochdale Man of the Year along with Ray Smith, Chair of
Pennines in Bloom.
St Paul’s will be holding the usual Christmas Fair (weather
dependant) along with a small gathering of residents to sing carols
at Norden recreational ground on Thursday 12 December 2019 at 7pm
where there will be mulled wine, mince pies and music from the
Salvation Army band.
reiterated the need for support for the opposition to the Bamford
Hall planning application as mentioned earlier, stating that even
if people had previously submitted objections to submit them once
again as it will in effect be treated as a new application.
He advised there is a new home watch scheme being started in the
new Greenbooth estate area and he urged residents to support this
initiative and get involved as much as they are able. The Chair agreed with Councillor Gartside and
invited members of the new scheme to attend the Norden PACT
meetings in the village.
The Mayor’s Big Service will be held at St John’s
Church, Rochdale on Sunday 15 December 2019 at 3pm and the event is
an open invitation to all in the borough.
A Councillor’s surgery will be held on Saturday 15 December
2019 at 10am in St Paul’s Parish Hall, Norden and then at 11am at Jericho Church,
The objection period is now
closed for the traffic regulation order for Elbut Lane/Bury and
Rochdale Old Road. One objection has
been received and as the location is between the Heywood and
Rochdale Townships, the matter will need to be heard at both
Results of the recent beat survey by local Ward Councillors and
officers from the Highways Department will be available to
residents in the near future.
Residents attended to raise
their concerns with Councillors and the Council regarding their
newly purchased homes in the Greenbooth Village Estate, situated on
the former Rainshore Mill site off Overtown lane, off Edenfield Road. They
have experienced severe drainage issues including wet, sinking
gardens and also the public open space in the area has a series of
open drains showing visible effluent.
The developer has been contacted on several occasions in an attempt
to address their issues, but the residents feel they are not being
fully heard and they are still waiting for assistance.
Residents requested Councillors seek assistance from the Head of
Planning at the Council to both ensure all the planning conditions
have been adhered to and also to try and secure a meeting with
Russell Homes, the builder, in an attempt to rectify their problems
and to be held to account.
The Council’s Highways Department have already inspected the
site and an officer stated:
An engineer has visited
the site and it would appear that there are land drainage issues
with the fields at a higher level than the houses/gardens, water is
therefore running off the fields into the gardens. With this in mind, it is not something the Council
would have any influence, it would appear to be a private matter
between the residents and the developer. I have asked for the road drainage to be checked
and this is installed as approved and we do not anticipate any
issues on the Highway.
Action 3: Councillors will escalate the request to the
Council’s Planning Department to try and arrange a meeting on
site regarding the residents’ issues.
Date and time of the next meeting
Tuesday 3 March 2020 at 7.00pm
Norden Methodist Church, Edenfield Road, Norden