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Introductions, Apologies and Code of Conduct PDF 15 KB
The Chair introduced himself and officers present, and welcomed all to
the meeting. He referred to the code of
conduct and he asked all to abide by the code for the duration of
Minutes from the last meeting and matters arising PDF 79 KB
The minutes of the previous meeting held on 21 May
2019 were approved as a correct record.
PC Andrew Harper & Cyril Brandford
held a minutes silence in remembrance.
Tour of Britain
Councillor Winkler gave an update on one of the biggest sporting
events to come through the village in recent years. Three months in the planning with local ward
Councillors, the Township Office and the Council. Thanks to V. White of the Townships Office for all
her assistance, the Council’s Highways Department for its
remedial works to the roads in advance of the race, Fab Dance from
Rochdale for the entertainment, the local businesses and public
houses who all got involved, P. Ellison for assistance and also
signage and also to J. Irving at The Community Café at
Norden Old Library for arranging activities aimed at
children. Everyone should be proud of
their involvement. The Chair seconded
Councillors are working hard along with officers to
bring this scheme to the village sometime this year and costings
are being looked into at present.
Rochdale in Bloom
Decision day is
Friday 1 November 2019. The Chair of
the forum thanked the committee and wished them luck.
was held about the future decommissioning of the Scout Moor Wind
Farm and examples of other issues experienced in locations in
Yorkshire and the Lake District. Forum
member A. McKeown explained that she had recently attended the
Public Inquiry into the re-powering of Kirkby Moor Wind Farm in the
Lake District, where the cost of decommissioning a wind turbine is
approximately £75,000 each. At
the present time, Rochdale has 7-8 years before this situation will
need to occur, however, answers are needed beforehand as there is
little clarity as to many questions being asked regarding proper
plans for their removal. Because of
requests at a previous forum, Councillor Winkler wrote to the
Council’s Planning Department asking a number of specific
questions about Scout Moor and its decommissioning. The reply received has not given specific answers
to a number of those questions.
J. Oliver, Secretary for the
Rochdale Rambling Club, provided the update. The areas he has recently looked into regarding
stiles and gate matters include Woodhouse Lane, Keeper’s
Drive and Shawfield Drive. He reported that he had received good support as
always from the Council’s Rights of Way Officer, J.
Simpson. A resident thanked J. Oliver
for his assistance provided recently regarding an issue to the rear
footpath near his property.
Greater Manchester Police
PC Giblin advised on the
following crime statistics since the last forum (19 May
12 reported in
total. Occurred primarily at night via
2 were reported.
Theft from motor vehicle
10 reported in
total. Increased patrols have been
Taking of motor vehicle
2 reported in
12 reported in
total. Occurred at various locations; 6
at filling stations.
A Neighbourhood Speed Watch
initiative, subject to volunteers, will be scheduled again in the
Norden ward sometime in the future. An
ANPR vehicle may also be made available to the ward. Councillor Holly thanked GMP on behalf of the
local Ward Councillors, the Chair and residents for their
assistance with this issue.
The Pub Watch Scheme now has 8/9
pubs involved and three meetings have taken place. Meetings are held quarterly throughout the
Operation Dragster took
place on 10 August 2019 and GMP thanked United Utilities for their
support. Unfortunately, heavy rainfall
resulted in the Operation being cancelled due to health and safety
concerns for the bikers. Another
initiative will be carried out before the year end.
Computer System – GMP
The system is
still a work in progress and unfortunately it has had a knock on
effect on the production of the newsletter which gets circulated to
Advice for residents
With the dark nights
drawing in soon as we approach Autumn/Winter, GMP’s advice to
residents is to keep their property and vehicles securely locked
and any valuables out of sight. Also
the use of timers for lights was recommended.
Allocations/amounts for the Members Fund and Ward
Fund as discussed at the first Township Committee of this financial
year are as follows:
Members Fund - £2,000 per Elected Member
Ward Fund - £8,000
The Chair advised the forum that the Norden Area Forum Sub Group will meet mid-October
to discuss any ideas for new projects/schemes to be funded, and any
further recommendations are welcomed for consideration. Contact your local Ward Councillor or the Township
Office to discuss.
A successful community safety event held last year will be
replicated on Saturday 19 October 2019 at 10am–2pm in
Norden Bowling Club. Councillors, Police and Community Safety Officers
from the Council will dispense safety and security advice to
residents on an open invitation.
Councillor Winkler also spoke about a push to set up a
Neighbourhood Watch Scheme for Norden
(not Homewatch) as an information
sharing exercise. Residents would
commit only a very small amount of time to the initiative to keep
local neighbours informed of any local matters of
concern. The scheme would also assist
the Police in their attempts to share and receive intelligence and
serve as a network of information for all concerned.
reiterated the need for the formation of a
Neighbourhood Watch Scheme for Norden
stating that any commitment by residents would be minimal in terms
of time, yet beneficial to the cause.
He advised there is a heritage weekend arranged in the borough this
weekend from 10am – 12 noon whereby residents are welcome at
certain places of worship including churches and mosques with
A new freestanding bin has been installed at the top of Caldershaw
Road to replace the former old one.
The traffic regulation order
for Elbut Lane/Bury and Rochdale Old Road to assist concerns for
safety has been submitted for public consultation by Bury
Council’s Highways Department. This traffic regulation order is supported by the
Birtle Trust. The Chair called for a
show of support from the forum.
The parking survey that was carried out at the beginning of July by
the Council’s Highways Officers will now be compiled into
recommendations. Councillors will be
updated first and then will in turn update the residents
accordingly on any plans agreed.
Works to replace fencing and a gate adjacent to Broadstone Close have been arranged by Ward
Councillors and part-funded with the Council’s Environmental
Management Department. The improvements
will ensure that access to Caldershaw Green is not open to attract
unwanted anti-social behaviour/activities.
and T. Dawson (United Utilities - Catchment Controllers
for the local reservoirs) gave an update. United
Utilities (UU) own a total of 177
dams, the average age of which is 130 years old with the last dam
being constructed in the 1970’s. Operating under the 1975 Reservoir Act, UU inspect
all the tunnels, towers and pitches and do a full walk around of
all their dams and reservoirs every 48 hours, compiling any issues
into a report. Officers are also
on-call. Every six months the dams and
reservoirs are also inspected by an engineer and every ten years an
inspection is carried out by an external engineer who compiles a
report of any improvements that are needed to the
structure. UU have £50 million in
their budget for dams and reservoirs for 2020-2025. The Environment Agency also report bi-annually on
dams/reservoirs producing a list of any ‘at-risk’
Residents queried concerns recently because of the incident at the
Toddbrook Reservoir. UU stated there is a robust system for reporting
issues and test exercises are continually carried out for risk
management reasons. A report/feedback
is still pending on this incident.
The Chair thanked C. Heathcote and T.
Dawson on behalf of the forum
and Norden residents for the excellent work the controllers and UU
provide to the environment of the local Moors under their
ownership. The approach of UU to the
preservation of the Moors and measures to eliminate inappropriate
use was widely praised.
Bamford Hall –
resident from the Bamford ward, gave an update. He explained how a third attempt to gain planning
permission to build a property, nine times the size of a normal
house, on the green belt land in the
grounds of Bamford Hall has recently been made. He appealed for support again from the forum and
Norden residents to register an objection with the Council’s
Planning Officer dealing with the application. The Chair requested that forum members express
their view on the matter (by a show of hands). Ten residents expressed their support for the
rejection of this application; no residents expressed support for
the application. The Birtle Trust has
also submitted an objection letter to the development.
Bamford – Green belt land
Councillor from the Bamford ward, gave an update. She expressed her support for the previous item of
the objection to the planning application for the property on the
grounds of Bamford Hall. She also
reiterated the fact that residents can contact the Council’s
Planning Officer to gain any information they require and pass on
their opinions in respect of applications. A resident spoke about her objection to another
planning application at Higher Clough at Carr Wood as she considered it is not in-keeping
with the local area and it will destroy local history with its
demolition. A number of members
expressed concern about the impact of inappropriate development in
the green belt. A motion was then
proposed urging officers to ... view the
full minutes text for item 6.
Date and time of the next meeting
Tuesday 10 December 2019 at 7.00pm
Norden Methodist Church, Edenfield