Agenda and minutes

Venue: Norden Methodist Church, Edenfield Road, Rochdale OL12 7QE. View directions

Contact: Rachel Hudson - Tel: 01706 924343 

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Introductions, Apologies and Code of Conduct pdf icon PDF 15 KB


The Chair introduced himself and officers present, and welcomed all to the meeting.  He referred to the code of conduct and he asked all to abide by the code for the duration of the meeting.  A minute silence was held in memory of local resident A Jones and also for the people of Ukraine.


Minutes from the last meeting and matters arising pdf icon PDF 120 KB


The minutes of the previous meeting held on 7 December 2021 were approved as a correct record.


Forsyth Street, Norden - highways safety issues
Residents from Forsyth Street previously attended to express concern about highways issues experienced on the street regarding car users regularly driving down the street and not being able to turn around, an issue with newly erected gates and cars mounting the footpath.
Update: Townships escalated these matters to the Council’s Highways Department who will contact the resident.

Norden Primary School – Request for School Crossing Patrol
A resident previously made a request to the forum for a school crossing patrol outside Norden Primary School due to vehicles parking on double yellow lines.
Update: Townships raised this request with the Council’s Highways Department who advised that it is the responsibility of schools to fund and provide this facility to the community.


Greater Manchester Police


Speeding Issues and RTA December 2021
In attendance at the forum were four members of GMP.  Chief Inspector Atherton started the update by sending his sincere condolences to the family, friends and anyone else affected by the road traffic accident which tragically took the life of a local resident in December 2021.  He advised that Rochdale Police were currently rolling out Operation Navigator designed to tackle the issues of speeding and vehicle offences.  The operation was launched prior to the accident and it has benefitted from joint funding from GMP and the community in respect of the purchase of four new top of the range hand-held speed cameras, along with a commitment to an increase in Road Traffic Police numbers.  Residents were urged to report when they witnessed any occurrences or patterns of speeding so that officers could apply resources correctly.  Report on GMP’s website at and email Norden’s PC T. McCluskey

The Chair advised the forum he had spoken with the Council’s Highways Department about possible improvements/measures to be introduced following the accident.  Highways are committed to assisting the matter with the installation of speed surveying tracks on Edenfield Road and they are awaiting the fatal accident report before making recommendations.

Highways Officers are obliged to use an evidence based approach to new installations as this accords with the Council`s best value principles.  Officers have however been looking at a range of options ahead of the RTA Report.  GMP confirmed the investigation is still underway and enquiries ongoing regarding the details surrounding the accident.

Crime statistics


Residential and commercial burglaries


Vehicle offences


Criminal damage






GMP gave updates to residents on the following matters:

·           Reminder to residents on the use of steering locks/faraday pouches in an attempt to deter the theft of motor vehicles.

·           Speed operations are up and coming in the next few months with neighbour task forces.

·           Pubwatch meetings are resuming.

·           PACT meetings are again taking place.

·           Police monthly surgeries are being held to acquire local intelligence for officers.

·           Homewatch letter will be reinstated.

·           Operation Dragster will be resumed in the future.


The Chair and forum showed their thanks to GMP for their efforts towards the Norden area since the last forum.


Councillor Update


Councillor Gartside
Councillor Gartside stated TfGM advised the recent problems regarding missed buses and infrequency of services were due to staff absences, but that the situation should now improve.  He also urged residents to use the buses more or services would inevitably be cut.

Woodhouse Lane resurfacing
Councillor Gartside advised the pot holes have now been fixed and he will keep the pressure on Highways regarding this issue.

Greenbooth Road drainage Issues
Highways advised beany drains had been jetted and there should now be less accumulation of water on the road surface.

Councillor Winkler
Furbarn Lane barrier installed
Councillor Winkler spoke at great length to the residents in attendance at the forum about the barrier newly installed at Furbarn Lane.  He advised that the section is not adopted from the rear of Further Field and it does not carry a right of way, it has however been used by horse riders for many years.  The Rights of Way Officer for the Council has been involved in the matter for this period of time and she has been taking complaints from residents in respect of its condition and vehicle use and she had received a bridleway claim to add the route to the definitive map.  The Officer is progressing with this matter and recommending to Township that the Council proceed with a legal order to add it.

Following meetings with members of the public and the local Councillors, the Officer recently arranged for a kissing gate and a bridleway step-over gate to be erected along its route.  This work has been paid for using the Rights of Way budget and not that of the Norden Ward/Members Funds.  However, Councillor Winkler explained Members are wishing to support the actions and hopefully in the future assist with further funds to undertake work to the surface.  Questions were raised in respect of access for disabled users which can be obtained via a radar key.

Councillor Winkler advised the forum he and the other Ward Councillors were doing all they could to support Highways in their collaboration with TfGM and GMP to listen to and address the speed issues in the village.  The speed feedback signs already in place can be retro-fitted with a device to log speeds of vehicles and any new signs can feature this capability.

Councillor Holly
Councillor Holly spoke in support of the concerns of residents on matters of speeding and road safety.  He advised the forum they will continue to be dealt with as high priority by Councillors.

Councillor Surgeries

Councillors hold surgeries at the locations of


St Paul's Parish Hall

9.45am – 10.45am

(2nd Saturday in month)

Jericho Church, Birtle

11.00am – 11.45am

(2nd Saturday in month)

St Vincent's Hall

7pm – 8pm

(3rd Thursday in month)



Open Forum


Norden Carnival
A resident queried whether there would be a carnival arranged for this year.  Councillor Winkler advised there was no active members of the committee responsible in organising this event unfortunately.  However, there will be a Platinum Jubilee Picnic event to be held in Jubilee Park over the bank holiday weekend supported by Millcroft Tea Gardens.

Overtown Lane TRO
A resident attending the forum expressed their disapproval of the lineage, claiming it is causing problems and certain residents were not informed of it.  Councillor Gartside addressed issues stating residents requested the measures and he took all steps to speak to as many in the area as possible before the scheme went ahead.  Officers had also undertaken a wide consultation process prior to the TRO being compiled.


Any Other Business


Councillor Winkler updated on the steps being taken to support the people of Ukraine at their time of war.  The Lviv Bridge, situated outside Number One Riverside, will be lit up this evening in the colours of the Ukrainian flag to show support and solidarity.  Residents can take any donations to Norden Library on Wednesday evening between 6-8pm and a convoy will be leaving Manchester on Friday to take vital supplies to refugees.

Rochdale in Bloom
An update was read out on behalf of Rochdale in Bloom by the Chair of the forum.  A brief excerpt as follows: Rochdale In Bloom are delighted once again to have been selected to represent the North West in this year's national RHS Britain In Bloom competition.  We are a community volunteer group and work alongside partners and sponsors such as Rochdale Council, NEEVA and H Bells & Sons.  The group takes pride in our local area of Norden and engage in many projects and initiatives throughout the year.  We are hoping once again to be awarded gold for our town in two categories of the Nationals and the North West.  Norden in Bloom is again entering on a standalone basis, where last year we were awarded a gold scoring an amazing 91 out of 100.

Norden’s ‘Great British Spring Clean’ event takes place on Saturday 2 April 2022, meeting in Norden Jubilee Park at 10am – 12 noon.  All volunteers will be treated afterwards to snacks and refreshments at Norden Bowling Club.  This event grows each year, bringing together our community to tackle the ongoing litter issues which blight our beautiful village and surrounding areas.  Community groups such as the Birtle Trust, Rooley Moor Neighbourhood and the Friends of Ashworth Valley all join in to make this a great event.  Check local social media and the Streetwise Magazine for any updates.  Thanks goes out to everyone for their continued support.

M Coats attended and advised the forum of the recent meeting held at Number One Riverside to discuss matters concerning the 72 acre site located in the neighbouring ward of Spotland with its new owners.  He had been personally invited down to the site to discuss his concerns direct.  He also advised a RSK report had been released direct to the Council’s Public Protection Department last month.  Queries were raised by residents regarding:

(i)     If the RSK report provides enough evidence of the site being contaminated, will the Council then register the land as ‘contaminated land’?

(ii)    Will the Council ensure the remediation company undertaking the work has in place sufficient public liability insurance for its employees to ensure retro-active cover?

Action: Townships to escalate the queries to Environmental Health Department

Senior Citizen’s Forum
An update was read out from Councillor Billy Sheerin, Assistant to the Portfolio Holder for Adult and Social Care: the group is an offshoot of the local area forums and is aimed at tackling issues which have a direct impact on our elderly residents.  We are looking for  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.


Date and time of the next meeting


Date to be confirmed - Norden Methodist Church, Edenfield Road, Norden